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Poster: Mooding Date: Aug 26, 2012 3:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: TDIH '71 Mind Left Body hints?

Listening through the Gaelic Park show today, I could swear that I heard a nascent Mind Left Body jam at roughly 5 min into the first part of the Not Fade Away (4:52 - 5:33 really).

Give it a listen and let us know what you think. We already know that 3/5/72 contains the first true MLB (inside the Good Lovin') but I feel like this is clearly an earlier toying with the idea. I wouldn't count this as the first, but could swear it's there.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 26, 2012 6:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH '71 Mind Left Body hints?

I don't think it's really an MLB tease...close though. I hear it more as a spontaneous pause on the way to GDTRFB. In that period, sometimes they'd quiet down for a bit in that transition; for instance compare 8/4 and 8/14/71, though they're not totally equivalent. (On 7/31 the Dead do throw in an unmistakable Darkness tease after the GDTRFB outro, though.)

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Poster: Mooding Date: Aug 26, 2012 8:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH '71 Mind Left Body hints?

Oh sure, plenty of examples of that quieter, slower transition from NFA to GDTRFB across '71 etc. I've referring to the actual notes played as opposed to how they're played. As 'just a drummer,' I don't have the musical vocabulary to describe the chord changes but some of you do.

And though you've posted an extensive history on the matter (THANKS!), I'll still assert that at minimum from 5:07-5:25 the MLB notion is evident - certainly not enough to be considered a 'jam' IMHO, but I believe it to be foreshadowing. Plus there's Billy's 'gallop' beginning at 5:17 playing into it perfectly.

Your great post above even says of the MLB jam "Most of the times it was played, Garcia's delicate slide playing resembled the Goin' Down the Road instrumental..."

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 26, 2012 9:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH '71 Mind Left Body hints?

There is a similar notion here...I just happen to think it's coincidental. For instance, the MLB jam is 4 descending chords, and here it sounds like 3 chords to me, with only the first 2 matching the traditional MLB steps. But it would take more skilled chord-spotters to tell for sure.

Funny, though - there aren't many bands where many people would debate over the identity of a 30-second musical passage in a cover-song medley!

A few years ago there was a little discussion over the identity of a little 2-minute jam in the middle of the 8/14/71 Other One...
http://archive.org/post/249534/tighten-up-jam-august-71almost
One of my own favorite discoveries was a little 40-second tuning jam from 12/1/71 which turned out to resemble a famous '72 jam...
http://archive.org/post/292864/a-little-jam